1 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:17,640 SOMETHING HAS CHANGED... 2 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,320 THERE'S A NEW FEELING IN THE STREETS. 3 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,200 THERE IS A DESIRE FOR CHANGE. 4 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,200 ENGLAND IS EXPORTING POP MUSIC AGAIN. 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,120 NOW WE ONLY NEED A NEW GOVERNMENT. 6 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,120 ALASTAIR CAMPBELL 7 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:32,720 PRESS SECRETARY BY TONY BLAIR - FALL 1996 8 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,160 - I've seen enough. - turn around. 9 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:40,480 Tremendously brilliant. You either listen or go to hell. 10 00:00:40,480 --> 00:00:42,840 His attitude was, "To hell with that! Come on." 11 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:45,760 And they were right because At that time, there was nothing. 12 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,760 I think that many young people They had accepted... 13 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,360 the conservative government and the boring culture... 14 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,320 and television during the day... 15 00:00:54,320 --> 00:00:57,280 and smoke marijuana to live... 16 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:01,000 and go to a soccer game-- and that was all. 17 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,200 I think in the 80's England was dead. 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:07,120 - Terrible, absolutely. - Shitty synthetic garbage. 19 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:11,920 When I was growing up in the 80's, They were like, "What the fuck is this?" 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,080 I think it was with Ecstasy, really. 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,040 It was the new drug fashionable, elegant. 22 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:20,040 Once-- 23 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,880 It was very exciting when it first emerged. 24 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,280 We were going to the Hacienda... 25 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,440 and we listened this music... 26 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:33,800 that was shit totally indescribable. 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,160 And then you took a drink... 28 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:39,120 and it was like listening classical music. 29 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,360 We went everywhere doing it; we travel 30 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,360 It's the best. It's better than working. 31 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:48,360 That's how I see it. 32 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,160 Does everyone know what we will do an Oasis tribute band? 33 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Or are you just going to tell them how good is it? 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,920 - Who? - You. 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,880 "Tell us about your band of tribute". 36 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,120 - "It's the best. It's great." - Well, continue. 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,480 It's an Oasis tribute band. called Wonderwall. 38 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,960 And it's good. Go on, Dean. 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:06,920 - No, you're doing well. - What a lack of moderation. 40 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,920 don't come back to interrupt me again. 41 00:02:08,920 --> 00:02:13,920 I'm lucky to have part of Noel. It's easy for him to act like a jerk. 42 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,160 ...festivals... 43 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,080 People don't he didn't give a damn. 44 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,040 - "Rock and roll star." - "Key to cocaine." 45 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,520 "Live forever." "Cigarettes and alcohol." 46 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,400 There are three songs that sums up the 90s. 47 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,040 Lots of fun. 48 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,000 LIVE FOREVER 49 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,440 Nobody thought in the consequences. 50 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:53,440 That's more my style. I like to look. 51 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 SPIKE ISLAND - MERSEYSIDE 52 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:02,080 STONE ROSES PLAY ON SPIKE ISLAND MAY 1990 53 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,400 It was a sunny day. 54 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:17,880 The sun shine seemed dayGlo by chemicals in the air. 55 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:22,080 There were thousands and thousands of teenagers there. 56 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:26,320 JON SAVAGE AUTHOR AND MUSIC JOURNALIST 57 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,720 I have never seen so many boys smoking marijuana and taking drugs. 58 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,120 The people were really high... 59 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,720 with grass, and also with Ecstasy. 60 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,320 So it was a little how to go back to 60... 61 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,680 a group of hallucinogenic people. 62 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:53,240 It was a shitty gig. 63 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,040 But it was a fantastic-- 64 00:04:55,040 --> 00:05:00,120 The wind blew the sound everywhere. 65 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,280 I think I didn't hear correctly one of the songs. 66 00:05:03,280 --> 00:05:06,760 But it wasn't about that. It was about all those people. 67 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:18,240 Spike Island was-- That was the project for my group. 68 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,160 We were going to become in the biggest band in the world. 69 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,760 And the Stone Roses-- 70 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,400 The impact on that gig It goes much further... 71 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,040 than that gig and the music. 72 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:32,440 The Stone Roses did not have to play a single note in that gig. 73 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,600 The work was already done by the time they arrived. 74 00:05:37,840 --> 00:05:40,720 Spike Island was a good feeling. 75 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:44,360 It was a feeling of space, of freedom... 76 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,320 after having been locked up... 77 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,720 for 11 years conservative government. 78 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,640 While the interrogation of Scotland Yard begins... 79 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:14,120 senior officers said that there was anarchist evidence-- 80 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,600 ladies and gentlemen... 81 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,400 we're leaving downing street for the last time... 82 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,640 after 11 and a half years wonderful... 83 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:27,520 and we are very happy leaving the UK... 84 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,520 in a state much better... 85 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:32,480 from when we came here 11 and a half years ago. 86 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:35,160 I EXIST ON £47 PER WEEK. HOW CAN I PAY THE MUNICIPAL TAX? 87 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:42,200 CRIBBS CAUSEWAY M5 UNION 17 - BRISTOL 88 00:06:44,320 --> 00:06:49,680 GANG - MASSIVE ATTACK ALBUM - BLUE LINES ISSUED - AUGUST 1991 89 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,960 When we were doing Blue lines... 90 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,320 the post-Thatcher thing It was the beginning of oneself. 91 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:02,000 It was all about yourself. and nothing about the community. 92 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:03,080 I never felt English. 93 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,080 - Everyone involved in records... - 3D - MASSIVE ATTACK 94 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:10,280 They all came from different ethnic environments. 95 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,760 From Jamaica, from Barbados, half Italian for me, English. 96 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,720 I never had an English feeling. 97 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,920 What impressed me the most about English music-- 98 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:28,600 in hip-hop and rock there was... 99 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:31,880 a strange inclination towards North America in accents and voices. 100 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,840 We never felt the need to do that. We wanted to sound like us. 101 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:39,000 There was no need to ring English or Swedish... 102 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,560 or like-- We just wanted to be us. 103 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,400 We were trying to use references that meant something to us... 104 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,600 that people understood, that he would capture. 105 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,880 What happened next from Spike Island... 106 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,320 is that the Stone Roses They completely screwed it up. 107 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:04,680 The Roses were the group that would triumph. 108 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:08,440 But they didn't, because they lost their courage. 109 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,160 So there was a hole there... 110 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:16,320 within that particular aspect of pop-rock culture. 111 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,440 That filled him up quickly. Nirvana... 112 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,360 and what became known like "grunge", scab. 113 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:25,320 NIRVANA - TOTP NOVEMBER 1991 114 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,600 Nirvana were incredibly strong and powerful... 115 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:49,160 and one of the best old rock groups. 116 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:53,000 The pendulum returned to North America. 117 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,240 There is always a kind of tic toc between the U.S. and England... 118 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,240 within England. 119 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,840 A E U U . he doesn't care damn England. 120 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:04,000 So inside England, suddenly you had... 121 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 a grunge invasion. 122 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,840 And in reality, the only decent group was Nirvana. 123 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,880 North American bands They dominated. 124 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,400 PHILS AVIDGE MUSIC EDITOR 125 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,240 Nirvana and Pearl Jam They devastated everywhere. 126 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,280 It was a wave movement. 127 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,960 Undoubtedly, to me I liked English music... 128 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,400 so I started representing English bands. 129 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,440 "THE GOOD MIXER" CAMDENTOWN - LONDON 130 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,280 Blur started drinking here. 131 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,920 Back then, Morrissey lived here. 132 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,920 Pulp and Jarvis drank here, and Suede did interviews here. 133 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,800 Menswear was formed here. 134 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,280 Elastica signed its contract here, in a matchbox. 135 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,320 So many bands important ones were here. 136 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:34,000 Select Magazine wanted to make a note... 137 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,000 about English bands-- five of them-- 138 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:40,680 Suede, Pulp, Denim-- emerged from Felt-- 139 00:10:40,680 --> 00:10:42,680 The Auteurs and St. Etienne. 140 00:10:42,680 --> 00:10:45,200 Three of those bands They represented my company... 141 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,600 so they contacted me to try to establish it. 142 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,920 They put a picture of Brett up front with a flag behind him... 143 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,360 that actually It wasn't a great idea. 144 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,320 And it was like that It was totally ours. 145 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:18,600 BAND - BLUR ALBUM - PARKLIFE ISSUED - APRIL 1994 146 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,240 It all started when we made our second US tour 147 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:54,120 And I was very disappointed with what I saw. 148 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,040 We travel on the bus to quite strange places. 149 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,200 It gave me a new perception. 150 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,160 and I started to do many connections... 151 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:07,520 between my home and North America. 152 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,680 We accept all these American things. 153 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:17,160 Plastic molds and obesity and money for nothing. 154 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:19,440 The fun pubs They really bothered me. 155 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:22,000 They had taken everything out and replaced with plastic. 156 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:26,640 I saw it coming, and I started to write songs about it. 157 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:37,000 It became terrifying. 158 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,320 When we got our fourth Brit, we realized... 159 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:46,320 that everyone had taken it very seriously. 160 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:48,720 and had not seen What the album was about. 161 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,000 you were raised in the East Quarter. 162 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:09,600 Lots of people-- 163 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,600 You don't believe I grew up in the East Quarter. 164 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,560 People marked you for being a fake cockney. 165 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:18,280 That's what it was. I was born in Whitechapel... 166 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,400 and lived in Leytonstone up to 9 years old. 167 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,400 I went to the same school than Jonathan Ross. 168 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,400 And then I moved to Colchester... 169 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,080 and I felt completely like a dog in a boat. 170 00:13:30,080 --> 00:13:33,920 It was a community almost exclusively all white. 171 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,240 It was still pretty racist. 172 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,240 They-- 173 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,840 They had followed the dream Thatcher in great form. 174 00:13:48,680 --> 00:13:53,920 But the price was like-- I felt like it was too much. 175 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:56,560 LION WALK SHOPPING CENTER COLCHESTER 176 00:13:56,560 --> 00:14:01,800 I felt very out of place, how fucked up the atmosphere was. 177 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:07,040 And the color and the dynamism of the field was destroyed. 178 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,880 And in a few years... 179 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,200 and Thatcher... 180 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,240 there was a species of urbanization-- 181 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:20,520 Literally fields in which it was a year... 182 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:22,920 The following year they were homes. 183 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,160 We toured with Blur... 184 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:37,760 the Parklife tour. 185 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,920 There was a gig in the Shepherd's Bush Empire... 186 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:47,520 and I remember doing our support number. 187 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:48,600 I remember seeing to Blur on stage. 188 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,080 And there were three levels of balconies... 189 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,720 and they moved from top to bottom. 190 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:59,200 And they were full of kids from 15 to 18 years old. 191 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,760 This was a generation that I had only known... 192 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,720 an establishment, an order. 193 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,200 many of them They had grown... 194 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,520 under Thatcherism and beyond. 195 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,240 And there was a feeling of emotion... 196 00:15:12,240 --> 00:15:14,560 that maybe, something was changing. 197 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,400 Maybe this music was an antecedent to something else. 198 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,680 JAMES BROWN FOUNDING EDITOR FROM LOADED MAGAZINE 199 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,040 Parklife captured that sense... 200 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,520 of Freedom that finally what you felt when you left the fifth form. 201 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,120 You are sitting in parks, drinking cider... 202 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:33,280 and kicking soccer balls among your friends. 203 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:48,160 I remember the night we broke up the first edition of Loaded... 204 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:51,000 we put boys and girls and we dance in the office. 205 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:53,520 It was exciting and it was cool. 206 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:55,840 I remember listening to that album... 207 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:59,040 and they had all taken out office desks... 208 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,520 because we were going to move to a larger office. 209 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,880 I was about to put up my desk in a container... 210 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:08,280 and the phone rang-- someone from the Daily Express... 211 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:12,720 He asked me if I had heard that Kurt Cobain was dead. 212 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,200 The band's fans American Nirvana... 213 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,320 they have been grieving for death... 214 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:21,120 of the group's lead singer, Kurt Cobain. 215 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:25,000 ...last month he shot himself at his home in Seattle. 216 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,040 Next to his body was found a suicide note. 217 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:31,000 What happened with Kurt Cobain's suicide... 218 00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:33,920 It was that there was a void. 219 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:38,320 And the music industries and the press hate gaps. 220 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:41,440 And Oasis emerged at the right time. 221 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 At that time, It was just Phil Collins... 222 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,240 and all these boring people and boring bands. 223 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:56,880 They played big gigs, but they had nothing to say. 224 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:58,760 They don't look like rock stars. 225 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,080 They look like penises in long stockings, something of a pantomime. 226 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:04,280 Do you know what I mean? 227 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,680 It was time for someone would take control. That's what we did. 228 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:31,600 At that time, I didn't like music. 229 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:37,080 I only played soccer and was late for tea. 230 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,840 and knocked on the doors of the people and ran away. 231 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,840 And ran through the gardens of the people... 232 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:44,160 and he stole things from me. 233 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,960 What kind of things did you steal? 234 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:49,920 Clothes hanging if I thought which looked good. 235 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,760 I was like, "I'll take that." Mountain bikes. 236 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Anything. Lawn mowing machines. 237 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,800 Did you steal machines of cutting grass? 238 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:03,600 Then he sold them. 239 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,160 In exchange for marijuana. 240 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,040 Who would want to write about everyday life... 241 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,800 living in Manchester in a fucking apartment block... 242 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,560 smoking bad marijuana, without doing anything? 243 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,160 my songs are about Get out of the city and live better. 244 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:33,400 BAND - OASIS ALBUM - DEFINITELY MAYBE ISSUED - AUGUST 1994 245 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,400 I wrote it in Casa lndia on Whitworth Street... 246 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,440 in Manchester, apartment 47, fourth floor. 247 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,200 - INDIAN HOUSE - It's where the beautiful people lived. 248 00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:46,560 but I wrote it in my room... 249 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,880 and I finished listening "Exile on Main Street." 250 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,160 and the melody from the first sentence-- 251 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,840 And that's from-- 252 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:04,160 It just took me one night write it. 253 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,160 I played it for the band the next day. 254 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,520 The next day we played it in a gig at the Hop and Grape in Manchester. 255 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:29,960 They were their own nation-state, It was the main feature of Oasis. 256 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:32,560 They didn't belong to anyone. 257 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,520 They were completely natural. 258 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:39,080 They were volatile. You never knew What would they say next? 259 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,520 They didn't give a shit what people thought of them... 260 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,160 and it came well from within. 261 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:47,400 we had waited a long time... 262 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:51,120 to have English pop stars to be like them again. 263 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:53,280 And suddenly, two emerged at the same time. 264 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,280 A round of applause for Oasis... 265 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,880 in his television debut with "Supersonic." 266 00:20:01,120 --> 00:20:04,760 SUPERSONIC ISSUED APRIL 1994... 267 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:19,920 ...IN THE SAME MONTH AS THE ATLANTIC BAR OPENS, LONDON 268 00:20:33,400 --> 00:20:35,280 This is huge. 269 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,400 According to the rules of that time, We didn't have any restaurants. 270 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:43,640 OZWALD BOATENG FASHION DESIGNER/TAILOR 271 00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,000 I remember thinking, "This must have cost a fortune." 272 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,440 It was beautiful art deco, my style 273 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,760 Good use of color. 274 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,560 Everyone felt the optimism from that point. 275 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,840 Everyone thought that any thing was possible because it worked. 276 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:40,960 Something was happening. 277 00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:43,600 A new generation had grown up. 278 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,760 They had grown up hating and repudiating North American mass culture. 279 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,760 music, movies, television... 280 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,480 Computer games-- It was all American. 281 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,800 I think the generation of English people who grew up... 282 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,080 in the mid 90s I really resented this. 283 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,520 They felt resentment national fact... 284 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:10,520 that the U.S.A. I enjoyed this undisputed cultural hegemony. 285 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:13,120 And consequently, came up... 286 00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:15,240 this kind of movement of protest, if you will-- 287 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,240 this new music, these new fashions... 288 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,400 that were more anti-american... 289 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,320 and they were English in a cartoon form. 290 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:24,640 That was enough... 291 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:28,720 LONDON, ENGLAND 292 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,360 so that the world would go crazy for the second arrival of London. 293 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:44,280 AUSTIN POWERS MAN INTERNATIONAL MYSTERY 294 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,920 Trust was something that in the past we had left the Americans-- 295 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:49,880 And Americans have a lot Confidence but little talent. 296 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:54,320 It seemed that all those phrases-- all those discussions-- 297 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,280 "Wouldn't it be great if...?" 298 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,320 Well that's what It happened in the 90s. 299 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,320 "Yes" it happened. 300 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:36,600 Also, why would you like to leave... 301 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,600 when oasis are here to see you? 302 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,000 They will play the first TV appearance... 303 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,840 of his new song, the best song ever... 304 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,600 "Some would say"! 305 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,800 OASIS - TOTP APRIL 1995 306 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,800 Oases were at the top of the pops. 307 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:54,480 I think "Some would say" had reached number one. 308 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,280 I remember seeing them and cried. 309 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,920 I thought, "Something really It's changing here." 310 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:15,480 It must have been early May. Well, they had council elections... 311 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,560 and the Tories They finally lost. 312 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,440 They really lost. 313 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,320 somehow, by accident, by design, someone catches... 314 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,800 the mood of the moment with a song. 315 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,640 For me, that was what Oasis did. 316 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,200 As England approaching the end of the century... 317 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,840 we have been with the same teachers for 18 years. 318 00:24:57,120 --> 00:25:01,400 We still have the talent, skills and ingenuity... 319 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,040 that we always had-- probably more. 320 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,880 But in a changing world, somehow we seem... 321 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:10,480 having lost our sense of purpose. 322 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:19,280 Now someone has emerged, determined to return it to us. 323 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,640 What surprised me It was the way... 324 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,520 that New Labor fell in line, especially with music. 325 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,520 "New Labour" and Tony Blair They were young. 326 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,400 PETER MANDELSON - PARLIAMENT LABOR CAMPAIGN 1996-1997 327 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,400 I played rock in college... 328 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,120 instead of walking in the demonstrations... 329 00:25:42,120 --> 00:25:44,120 and support worthy causes. 330 00:25:44,120 --> 00:25:46,800 Did you know the band Ugly Rumors? 331 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,840 I don't know your band. I'm afraid I'm more boring. 332 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,640 We were in Oxford at the same time... 333 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,400 but I was the type boring politician. 334 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:11,760 Labor has returned home, so come back to us. 335 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,840 Labor is coming home! 336 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,400 Seventeen years of pain It didn't stop us from dreaming. 337 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,120 Labor is coming home! 338 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,280 Tony was trying to generate a new policy... 339 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,640 a freshness in politics. 340 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200 I needed shapes to symbolize that freshness... 341 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,520 how to head balls with Kevin Keegan... 342 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:49,400 or talk to Noel Gallagher, or whatever. 343 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,680 He went to the field. established Labor credentials. 344 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,760 NOEL GALLAGHER "TONY'S SPEECH "BLAIR FILLED MY EYES WITH TEARS" 345 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,120 To create a connection between politics... 346 00:26:58,120 --> 00:27:01,040 and the country as a whole. 347 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:03,120 NEW LABOR NEW ENGLISH POP 348 00:27:03,120 --> 00:27:05,520 THE ENGLISH AWARDS FEBRUARY 1996 349 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,640 There are seven people in this room... 350 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:12,080 who are helping to the young people of this country. 351 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,480 I, our boy, moron, "quigsy"... 352 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:18,840 Alan White, Alan McGee and Tony Blair. 353 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:23,640 If you want to do something, say, "Tony Blair is our man." 354 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:27,120 Power to the people! 355 00:27:27,120 --> 00:27:32,080 England had been so nervous and under the stick for so long... 356 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,120 and at war with itself, with his destiny. 357 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:41,920 The 80s was when England It stopped being England... 358 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,000 and stopped living that myth, that we were a great state. 359 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000 And those from outside arrived in the 90's... 360 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:52,400 and it was his turn. 361 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,080 An exciting time. 362 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:13,200 It was a reinvention of what there was in the 60s and punk. 363 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:19,040 Maybe it reminded us of the past, but with a vision towards the future. 364 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,320 The English tradition It's fantastic. 365 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280 A lot of pomp and snobbery. 366 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:32,080 So, take that and create something new and modern... 367 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,440 for me it is the way to the future. 368 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:51,240 We had times when England, London, it was exciting. 369 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:55,160 Gave us an excuse to say which was exciting again. 370 00:28:55,160 --> 00:29:00,880 And it happened at a time where many things happened. 371 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,480 I did my work on tour; McQueen was in Paris... 372 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,160 the Gallaghers around the world-- It was a great time. 373 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,480 There was a kind of Shark's lament. 374 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,200 You said, "I'll take that out." What scares you about Jaws... 375 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:37,200 and I'll put it here." 376 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160 DAMIEN HIRST - ARTIST 377 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,160 I had enough of an idea big to eat you... 378 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:45,440 something that might scare you-- not a painting, a sculpture, a light box. 379 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,760 It was something that could provoke fear itself. 380 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,640 But I guess there was something in those times... 381 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,720 that made everyone feel that was possible... 382 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,400 go further and with greater grandeur. 383 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,920 We never paint pictures and we wait for the people. 384 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,880 It wasn't like that. We couldn't wait. 385 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,920 We said, "Let's get a building, Let's go and do it." 386 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:31,760 The boxes did not work unless that they were in a space... 387 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,720 and people will look at them. 388 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,960 "Now the panties They were art!" 389 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:43,120 The daily Star covered the picture of fish and chips. 390 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:47,040 You get all those things and people don't realize-- 391 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,520 They think that art It's sensational... 392 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:53,360 when in truth, the sensational It's what appears in the newspapers. 393 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,160 When you go there, the cow and the beef cut in half-- 394 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,000 There is something sad, silent and tragic about it. 395 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,400 Again, the same with the shark 396 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:05,600 But they also fly some heads and that. 397 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,640 We are not adverse to those things. 398 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:38,000 That video was very Benny Hill, right? 399 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,880 When they asked me to do it, I said, "Very Benny Hill." 400 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,200 That was the entire script. 401 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,280 Damon cut some shots, which was bad... 402 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,600 because we didn't want to offend to his followers. 403 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,600 We had Jo Guest in a nurse uniform... 404 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,600 running on the scene... 405 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,280 with great cleavage shots that came and went. 406 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,520 But for me, that did it. 407 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,720 They were always-- I think the song was like... 408 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:03,600 you know what I mean, at the end of the day. 409 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,920 two of the groups most popular in England... 410 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,320 BBC 6:00 NEWS AUGUST 1995 411 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,320 they have started the biggest war from the hit list in 30 years. 412 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:25,000 Oasis and their rivals, Blur, They released new singles today... 413 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,760 each one waiting to arrive to the No.1 spot next week. 414 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,760 The music industry You haven't seen anything like it... 415 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,960 since the beatles fought against The Rolling Stones in the 60s. 416 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:39,200 KEVIN CUMMINS ROCK PHOTOGRAPHER 417 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,440 NME wanted war between Blur and Oasis... 418 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,400 and they watched to see who would survive. 419 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,200 Blur they believed it a little too much. 420 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,000 I don't think Oasis were too worried. 421 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000 Everyone at the NME wanted May Blur win that war... 422 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,600 because they were boys nice middle class... 423 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,280 and the NME was an Oxford newspaper. 424 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,320 They got upset when working class pigs... 425 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,840 from Manchester they won. 426 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,840 There was all that nonsense between you and Oasis. 427 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,640 I mean how did it happen all that? 428 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:28,400 I don't think I have What to talk about that... 429 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,240 simply because... 430 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,680 everyone knows about it, you understand? 431 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:36,320 But I say, for you-- 432 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,640 I'm not going to tell you the real reason why-- 433 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:46,320 Because there are other people involved. 434 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,320 The real reason for which we fell... 435 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:51,080 in part, so publicly-- 436 00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,040 It has been described... 437 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,960 like the english championship music heavyweight. 438 00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:59,160 In a corner, 4 class men middle of the south of England... 439 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,440 known collectively like Blur... 440 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,520 in the other corner, five young people from the working class... 441 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:05,520 from manchester called Oasis. 442 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:13,800 They are the two bands most popular in England... 443 00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,320 having sold millions of records... 444 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,280 and they are in a war for the hit list... 445 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,160 that set the industry on fire of music. 446 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,400 We are in the golden age of English pop music. 447 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,720 STEVE SUTHERLAND - NME SPEAKS ON THE BBC NEWS 448 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:30,120 Oasis and Blur formed on the independent circuit... 449 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,680 and they became popular after playing many gigs... 450 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,360 and have reached to the general public. 451 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,800 They are struggling to see who is the greatest 452 00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,440 I see Steve Sutherland telling Daman Albarn... 453 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960 "They should release a single" the same day as them. 454 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,160 We will sell a lot of newspapers and you will see a lot of records." 455 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,680 That's how I see it. We were very offended by that. 456 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,640 We sit in Rockfield and Alan McGee came and said... 457 00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:01,200 "Well, they have delayed his 'single'. 458 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,600 They had it ready to go two weeks before... 459 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,880 and they decided to delay it, so that It came out the same day as ours. 460 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:14,280 And Alan McGee said, "Well, delay yours again." 461 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:17,160 And we said, "Fuck that." 462 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,080 It was his last chance... 463 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,520 to stick to the tails from my band. 464 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:29,360 And the NME lost thousands of readers per week. 465 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,800 I guess... 466 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,800 that they didn't think that would get out of control like it did. 467 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:41,600 But, you have Damen Albarn on the 10:00 news. 468 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:45,800 I ask you, what the hell is all that? 469 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,240 When today they opened the doors of record stores, the war began. 470 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,040 It is possible that both "singles" they would have reached No. 1... 471 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,720 if they had come out in different weeks. 472 00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,280 I'm a little nervous for the whole thing, obviously... 473 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,560 because both bands The stakes have increased... 474 00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:04,400 and someone will win... 475 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:06,640 and someone will finish second. 476 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:10,240 By the nature of being In a band, you're competitive. 477 00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,960 And you want to win, really. 478 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,080 When I saw myself in the 10:00 news... 479 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:21,000 In this kind of battle, supposed battle-- 480 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,840 It was all very strange. 481 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,040 The last time we meet... 482 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,120 when you were walking on the street, you told me... 483 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,000 that they were bothering you. 484 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,840 Yes. But they also cheered me. 485 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:42,640 I don't want to seem you know... 486 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:47,680 "Poor Damon-- "Everyone made fun of him." 487 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,320 It wasn't like that. 488 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,840 Sometimes it was a little annoying. 489 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,080 Wherever he went... 490 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,640 They reminded me. 491 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,720 Blur didn't come out of it too well. 492 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:06,720 They were the band middle class... 493 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:09,800 and you were the heroes of the working class. 494 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,560 I wouldn't say Blur didn't come out of it too well. 495 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,160 They are that, and we are that. 496 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:21,280 You can't disguise it and make it something it is not. 497 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,280 They have never been in a construction. 498 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,480 It doesn't mean that-- 499 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,600 It doesn't mean that the dirt under the nails... 500 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,640 It's a shield of honor-- it is not. 501 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,600 Nothing else is a fact. 502 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,080 They had never distributed newspapers. 503 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,360 I delivered milk and things like that. 504 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:41,240 I worked in construction. 505 00:37:41,240 --> 00:37:45,600 That's what my soul fundamentally does purer than theirs. 506 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:49,840 The strange thing about that is that suddenly-- 507 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:54,320 Blur was a pop band not authentic middle class... 508 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:58,600 and Oasis were the real ones heroes of the working class. 509 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:04,440 How did you feel about all that? 510 00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:08,400 That was an observation very smart, right? 511 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,120 What do I think about it? 512 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,480 Yes. How did you feel? all the time? 513 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,080 I felt stupid, and I felt-- 514 00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,920 I felt very confused. 515 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:32,280 Basically, I didn't realize that my kind of frivolity... 516 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,200 I was going to have, you know... 517 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,760 a kind of resonance so deep in my life. 518 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:45,880 And I changed dramatically after that period. 519 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:05,360 GANG - MASSIVE ATTACK ALBUM - PROTECTION ISSUED - JANUARY 1995 520 00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:12,080 I just didn't understand why a couple of bands... 521 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,560 suddenly they became the barometer of all music. 522 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,920 For us and other bands, We weren't interested... 523 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,600 it was more difficult to do feel your presence. 524 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,680 Because you should have, a kind-- 525 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,440 You had to be part of this battle, and almost, take a side. 526 00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:31,120 And damn first place You weren't interested. 527 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:33,200 So you went on and waited for this to subside. 528 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:36,640 For us and other bands who lived in Bristol... 529 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:41,840 the last 10 years were the time most creative of our lives. 530 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,080 PORTIS HEAD ( SMALL VILLAGE NEXT TO THE SEA ON THE OUTSKIRTS OF BRISTOL) 531 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:17,600 BAND – PORTISHEAD ALBUM - TONTO ISSUED - OCTOBER 1994 532 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:39,160 BAND - PULP ALBUM - DIFFERENT KIND ISSUED - OCTOBER 1995 533 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,560 Around that time, it seemed that something was happening. 534 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:50,440 For me it was exciting. It seemed like... 535 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,960 This long period of time... 536 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,520 where things like of the world where I came from... 537 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,680 They were considered very marginal. 538 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,400 Many people considered themselves very marginal. 539 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,120 If you lived under subsidy in the mid 80's... 540 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,400 you were trash of the world, right? 541 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:13,440 And I guess it was in the back of Thatcher's England. 542 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:18,120 So you were used to being a marginal piece of shit. 543 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:21,800 And suddenly, the piece shitty it became-- 544 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,800 moved to center stage. 545 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,840 That sounded-- It felt exciting. 546 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:30,120 It felt like a revolution It was in progress, or something. 547 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,560 She came from Greece, I was thirsty for knowledge 548 00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,560 I studied sculpture at Saint Martin's College 549 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,520 That's where I... 550 00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:55,640 I noticed her 551 00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:01,680 He told me that his father was rich 552 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,360 I said, "In that case, I'll drink rum and Coca-Cola." 553 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:05,840 She said, "Okay." 554 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,960 And then in 30 seconds 555 00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:12,320 she said 556 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,720 "I want to live like common people 557 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,720 "I want to do what common people do 558 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,960 "I want to go to bed with common people 559 00:42:23,240 --> 00:42:26,640 I want to sleep with common people like you" 560 00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,680 That song you made, "Common people"... 561 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:36,280 I heard it described like the perfect encapsulation... 562 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,280 of the aesthetic of English pop. 563 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:39,200 Geez. 564 00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:41,040 Sure. 565 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,520 It was a true story that happened when I studied art... 566 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,440 and a greek girl said who wanted to move to Hackney... 567 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,400 and live like ordinary people. 568 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,200 I told him that couldn't happen because she could live... 569 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,080 In those circumstances, but I would be acting a role. 570 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,160 Because I would always know could escape. 571 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,960 The culture of the working class she was often seen as vulgar. 572 00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,120 And maybe people fell in the account of the fact... 573 00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:55,200 that it was a little more alive that the high eyebrow culture... 574 00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:02,560 so they were desperate for saying that they had been-- 575 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:06,480 "I went to a great cafe which was very authentic. 576 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,600 The cutlery "They were so dirty." 577 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,560 It's not a choice for you. 578 00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,560 You don't leave school and you go... 579 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,200 "It is important that I am of labor class". 580 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:17,520 Because that's how I was born. 581 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:20,680 I was born into a fucking life... 582 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:22,680 of damn jobs of low category. 583 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,000 My father was a worker. 584 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:27,440 My mother was a cleaner and school waitress. 585 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,800 And that was it. 586 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,000 What aspirations did we have? None. We only had rock and roll. 587 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,240 It was an explosion. 588 00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,800 Yes, pretty crazy. 589 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:39,920 They became very big. 590 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,640 To every pub you went, Oasis music was playing-- 591 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:47,400 Every place in England, suddenly there were none... 592 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,840 so you got three gigs of Oasis in the country. 593 00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,800 We filled the holes because they couldn't see them. 594 00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,720 When did Wonderwall start? 595 00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,720 Six years. Six years ago. 596 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,440 Was it in 1996? Something like that. 597 00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,480 - A long time ago. - Six years. 598 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,560 A lot of kilometers. We travel a lot. 599 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,560 A long time. 600 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:24,560 We had several crazy years when issued Don't look back. 601 00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,600 - Foolishness. - It was incredible. 602 00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,160 Probably busier than Oasis were. 603 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,200 Parts of Wonderwall, dean? 604 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,560 It's about your girl, the song, Meg Matthews back then. 605 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:53,080 - He wrote it for her. - "Face-wall". 606 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,400 What the fuck does that mean? 607 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:56,960 Do you mean a face like a wall? 608 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,160 When Morning Glory came out, the English press criticized her. 609 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,120 And then he continued to do whatever he did. 610 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,880 BAND - OASIS ALBUM - WHAT'S THE STORY? (MORNING GLORY?) 611 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:22,840 ISSUED - OCTOBER 1995 612 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,400 How crazy. We sold more singles that others sold records. 613 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,160 "Don't look back angry" sold more than a million singles. 614 00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:36,400 I think definitely maybe. It's a better album. 615 00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,200 I don't understand bass no reason... 616 00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,800 why in this country in particular... 617 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,920 when people bought Morning Glory Maybe you definitely didn't buy it. 618 00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,680 I would like to say, where do they get that from? 619 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:52,080 When you buy Morning Glory, don't buy definitely maybe? 620 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,680 What is that about? Are you doing it to make me angry? 621 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,360 I was-- It was a source of-- 622 00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,360 I could sit and think on it for hours. 623 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,320 Do you definitely have maybe? And Morning -- 624 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,800 See? I can understand that. The people are very strange. 625 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,680 AUGUST 10 AND 11 - 1996 626 00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,840 OASIS PLAY IN INDEPENDENT CONCERTS BIGGEST IN ENGLISH HISTORY 627 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:01,960 When I stood at Knebworth and I saw Oasis... 628 00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,760 I looked at Alan McGee. and I told him... 629 00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,640 "This is it. "The battle has been won." 630 00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,680 It seemed that, through that time in the 80s... 631 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,800 when we organized bands in small clubs... 632 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,440 or we made amateur magazines flexible disks... 633 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,720 trying to get an item about a small band on the radio... 634 00:48:19,720 --> 00:48:24,840 or an article about a girl band in the music press, or whatever-- 635 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,840 It seemed that everything what had to be done... 636 00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:32,480 was completed at Knebworth-- that's what it looked like. 637 00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,920 It was the best band, the biggest band in the world... 638 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,200 and for once, the biggest band It was the best band in the world. 639 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,200 Were you aware at that time? What were you doing history? 640 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,840 I think everything-- 641 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:33,200 After Morning Glory aired, and Wonderwall took off... 642 00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:36,320 it seemed that everything led to something... 643 00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:40,760 that would define not only band size... 644 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:43,320 but what English pop music it was at that time. 645 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,600 Everything seemed to lead to Knebworth... 646 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:51,000 but we were too busy doing it to worry us-- 647 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:54,640 If we had sat and calculated... 648 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,440 that we were going to make history... 649 00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:00,080 let's say that I would have dressed better... 650 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:04,560 I would have gone to bed earlier and I tried to stop Liam from playing the salsa. 651 00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,400 This is for-- This one is for anyone-- 652 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,600 The independent gig biggest in history. 653 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:26,080 Very proud of that. 654 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,440 - What do you remember? - Nothing. 655 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:33,120 Not much, really. 656 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,720 I will never forget it, I thought that only We were going to play one night... 657 00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,480 and we play the second one, so I got drunk after the first one. 658 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:42,800 I don't remember anything else. 659 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:03,040 What features do a great rock band? 660 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,000 Have it, just have it. I don't know what it is. 661 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,240 You have to have it, and I have it. 662 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:15,800 And so we have it, I hope that other people learn to have it. 663 00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,520 You understand me? 664 00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,360 - Do you like fame? - At first, of course, yes. 665 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:47,720 At first I loved all that, meet people you see on TV. 666 00:51:47,720 --> 00:51:52,920 And supermodels and all that. 667 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:55,680 Actors and all that. Yes, you know. 668 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,760 Meet Ewan McGregor It was impressive. 669 00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:18,760 Danny Boyle did something very clever... 670 00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:21,760 when he brought everyone the luminaries of BritPop... 671 00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,160 and whoever, and asked them to make songs for that. 672 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:29,080 And we just did it. It was great. We had a great time. 673 00:52:32,440 --> 00:52:35,760 "ATOMIC" BY SLEEPER (OPENING) TRAINSPOTTING SOUND 674 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:43,040 A whole wave of creativity that came from the streets... 675 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,280 and surprised people. 676 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,280 They were making movies from Hollywood... 677 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:53,440 about addiction stories to heroin and houses in Glasgow. 678 00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:54,720 What was all that? 679 00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:06,240 I had a great time. 680 00:53:06,240 --> 00:53:11,200 Every day between spring 1994... 681 00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:16,080 and the spring of 1997, There was something exciting. 682 00:53:16,080 --> 00:53:19,440 We used to make noise on Loaded about whose turn it was... 683 00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,200 do the 100 meters to go get champagne. 684 00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:30,800 I loved going out... 685 00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:32,240 go to exhibitions-- 686 00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:35,320 You know, go out and perform Well behaved for a minute... 687 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,760 and be on my knees next looking like a bust. 688 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:39,760 And everyone saying, "He lost his mind." 689 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,000 "No, he looks under control." "No, he lost his mind." 690 00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:47,800 That's very entertaining for a while. 691 00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,640 We all had a good time. I sure do. 692 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:03,120 There was a cultural change. It was good to be a boy. 693 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,800 Yes, but I don't think that it was so like that. 694 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:10,280 Because I had been so out of series for so long... 695 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,600 which was a kind of breath of fresh air... 696 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:15,800 when people were quite rude. 697 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,920 One of the strangest things of all this... 698 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:27,680 from BritPop with youth culture... 699 00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:31,360 It's the fact that... 700 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:34,240 people were afraid to talk... 701 00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,840 about what it really does to a rock star. 702 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:41,280 An example of this is Liam Gallagher... 703 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:46,240 who, at various points He looked quite androgenous. 704 00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:49,360 What does that mean? 705 00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:50,880 you also have a feminine quality. 706 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,120 - I have what? - A feminine quality. 707 00:54:53,120 --> 00:54:55,120 What does that mean? 708 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,040 Well, not only are you a-- 709 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,040 Am I a girl? 710 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,120 No, I'm not saying you are a girl, but-- 711 00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,520 What does that mean? 712 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,240 You're not a big guy. 713 00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,760 You have that androgenic kind of-- 714 00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,920 You have a feminine something in your masculinity. 715 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,720 Really? Explain to me. What does that mean? 716 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:17,760 I guess the way you look. 717 00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:21,560 Am I a pretty boy? Yes. I'm quite handsome. 718 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:25,680 I take care of my hair. I'm somewhat obsessed with him. 719 00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:30,520 You must have a decent cut if you are the leader of a gang. 720 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:32,760 Yes. 721 00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:59,200 Many people felt ambivalent to appear in Vanity Fair... 722 00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,320 in connection with Cool Britannia. 723 00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,560 On the other hand, they wanted appear in Vanity Fair. 724 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,920 If you don't notice something the American press-- 725 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,040 particularly magazines striking New York-- 726 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,040 It's like it didn't happen. 727 00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:15,520 So although Cool Britannia was... 728 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:18,240 a kind of violent reaction... 729 00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:23,520 to things precisely like Vanity Fair and its great influence... 730 00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,520 say, "We don't care what they think. 731 00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,640 We are English. "North America doesn't matter to us." 732 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:31,040 At the same time, They wanted to be photographed... 733 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,160 They wanted to appear in the magazine. 734 00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,240 Well, one of the people more indecisive... 735 00:56:43,240 --> 00:56:45,840 for a long time It was Tony Blair. 736 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,680 one of my jobs was trying to persuade... 737 00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:50,720 to the office people by Tony Blair... 738 00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:53,800 that would be a good thing, politically, for Tony Blair... 739 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:57,320 pose in the copy of Vanity Fair's Cool Britannia. 740 00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:00,160 And that was extremely difficult... 741 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,320 because, on the one hand, the whole cultural phenomenon... 742 00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,440 had occurred under the mandate of John Major. 743 00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:12,080 In a way, the Tories could accept credit for Cool Britannia. 744 00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,040 So why should I endorse it Tony Blair? 745 00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:17,320 On the other hand, Cool Britannia... 746 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,240 seemed to be some kind of omen... 747 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,440 of something new in England, a new optimism... 748 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:25,440 and that was something with what... 749 00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:28,120 Tony Blair hoped to join... 750 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:30,480 in the general election of 97. 751 00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,440 I thought it looked Like a total fucking idiot. 752 00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,600 Because they wanted Liam and I would do it. 753 00:57:56,600 --> 00:57:59,520 I remember answering the call... 754 00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,280 and someone said, "If you don't do it, Blur will." 755 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,720 So I laughed and gave him the phone to Liam. 756 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:08,080 It was like, "Damn, it will be "I better do it then." 757 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,440 And Liam ends on the cover... 758 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:15,600 with a bottle on his head as if it were a baby bottle... 759 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,360 with his damn wife. 760 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,120 In a bed with the flag, and topless. 761 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,960 Trash. 762 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:10,160 LABOR WINS GENERAL ELECTION MAY 1997 763 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:13,440 Today Tony Blair was carried to Downing Street... 764 00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:15,440 in a landslide victory... 765 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,360 and in a wave of Labor joy. 766 00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:19,360 VICTORIA 767 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,880 It has a majority of 179, Labour's best ever. 768 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:36,040 It made me so depressed when Noel went to Downing Street. 769 00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,520 Now you see their photos, you watch the news. 770 00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,200 He has a neat haircut and his elegant jacket... 771 00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:45,800 and Meg is wearing a nice new dress. 772 00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:47,520 And everything he believed in-- 773 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,520 It didn't belong to anyone and suddenly it did belong. 774 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:51,120 It was just in their pockets. 775 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:55,800 And at the precise moment, They castrated him. 776 00:59:55,800 --> 00:59:59,240 It's like someone has come with a knife to cut his balls. 777 00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:04,040 I challenge anyone who have a damn official thing... 778 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:06,040 that jumps out of your mailbox... 779 01:00:06,040 --> 01:00:10,400 while you are dressed like an Afghan clown... 780 01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,680 fucking at 5:00 in the morning... 781 01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:14,640 completely drugged with acid... 782 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:18,440 and saying, "It's from the damn Prime Minister!" 783 01:00:18,440 --> 01:00:20,480 "What does it say?" 784 01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:24,080 "He wants us to go to a damn-- 785 01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:27,840 He invites us to his house to have a drink. 786 01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:29,840 I think so, we must go! 787 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:31,760 Were you invited to 10 Downing Street? 788 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:34,760 No, and I still wouldn't have gone. 789 01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:39,840 Why not? 790 01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:42,280 It's not my place. Why would I go there? 791 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:44,760 I have nothing in common with none of them. 792 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,840 I don't know anything about politics. I don't want to know. 793 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,080 It looks like a shit house why go there? 794 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,680 Why do you think What was Noel? 795 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,680 Because he's crazy about it. 796 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,480 I wanted to go in and snoop around a little. 797 01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:02,600 Part of you says, "I would have gone to look, like Noel did." 798 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,240 Part of you says, "I won't go, because it doesn't suit me." 799 01:01:05,240 --> 01:01:09,360 And part of you says, “What the fuck? I don't want to go out tonight. 800 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,400 "I'm going to stay here." 801 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,960 Why didn't I go? 802 01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,400 Because I just realized that they had deceived us... 803 01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:24,400 and that they would leave us everyone aside. 804 01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:28,320 There's the kind of, the promise of-- 805 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:31,200 It's okay. Let's put it this way. 806 01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:34,000 Maybe he was delirious. 807 01:01:34,000 --> 01:01:36,600 But they had given me the impression... 808 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,600 that they had invited me... 809 01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:42,560 because they were interested whatever he had to say. 810 01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,560 But according to the point who came to power... 811 01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:50,400 It was quite obvious to me... 812 01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:53,800 that we, that is, the artists-- 813 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:55,760 The artists... 814 01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,480 They were, you know-- 815 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,640 Basically, if you went there... 816 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,840 you would enter the main door... 817 01:02:02,840 --> 01:02:05,960 and then they would show you the way out, as soon as you entered. 818 01:02:05,960 --> 01:02:10,400 And while everything went away on TV and newspapers... 819 01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,400 that was the only thing that mattered. 820 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,400 And then it was like, "Now we run the country. Screw you." 821 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:18,360 I never had good feelings about Tony Blair... 822 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,320 or New Labour. 823 01:02:20,320 --> 01:02:23,600 And it's interesting, it's a measure how conservative he was... 824 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,640 the music business and press back then. 825 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,680 You couldn't say that without being slapped. 826 01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,760 You literally couldn't criticize New Labour. 827 01:02:32,760 --> 01:02:35,440 You couldn't fault Blair. 828 01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:38,560 It was prohibited. It was not allowed. 829 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,520 They were all so desperate to believe... 830 01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,480 in the deception that was. 831 01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:47,600 What really It made me angry... 832 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:49,920 when I made a kind comment on... 833 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,920 not understand at all... 834 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:56,520 I didn't feel like he could justify send their children to private school. 835 01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,560 Or, "woodcock." Sorry, that's a euphemism. 836 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:05,640 And I received a letter from your office, saying not to talk about it. 837 01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,040 And that was the end, you know... 838 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:13,400 of my brief courtship with that. 839 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,920 And that's the reason why, when they came in... 840 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:17,520 There were about 5 minutes... 841 01:03:17,520 --> 01:03:19,760 to thank everyone who They helped promote it... 842 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,320 I didn't feel like I was part of the party. 843 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:27,160 Now you can get these CDs... 844 01:03:27,160 --> 01:03:29,960 and you play a famous song, and you can play along. 845 01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,520 We all stayed up the night to watch the elections. 846 01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:39,240 And I asked him how he could stay up all night. 847 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,720 and he approached me and he told me... 848 01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,680 "Probably not through the same means as you." 849 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,960 And at that moment, I thought, "I live in shit." 850 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,120 And he was right. 851 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,840 I thought that was hilarious. 852 01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,000 After that I felt a lot of respect for him. 853 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,680 There you go. 854 01:03:56,680 --> 01:03:59,200 The photo looks a little ugly, don't you think? 855 01:04:47,920 --> 01:04:49,800 "I have the fear." 856 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,360 That's true. 857 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,440 Well, because I got what I wanted, I guess... 858 01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,440 what I had been looking for... 859 01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:03,920 most of my life. 860 01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,000 And then the current reality of that... 861 01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,400 I thought it was garbage. 862 01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,640 It's Saturday night, and we are about to discover... 863 01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,560 who has stars in the eyes. 864 01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:23,440 He is a smart boy transformed into a pop star. 865 01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,360 Because tonight, singing live, Gareth Dickenson is... 866 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:29,440 Jarvis Cocker! 867 01:05:47,160 --> 01:05:51,000 You know, you just realized that you turned into an idiot. 868 01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:52,920 It was like you had lived-- 869 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:54,800 I don't know how old I was, around 32. 870 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:58,520 So you've lived your life to some extent for 30 years... 871 01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,240 and suddenly, all that experience... 872 01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,240 and life you have led... 873 01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:05,560 it no longer seems count for nothing... 874 01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:10,320 because you can't do it anymore those things, because you have people-- 875 01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,200 on top of you-- 876 01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:15,760 And yet the world that supposedly opened the doors for you-- 877 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:18,680 "Yes, welcome, sir, to the celebrity club"... 878 01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,800 really seems to be shit 879 01:06:23,560 --> 01:06:25,800 The way I I was dealing with that situation... 880 01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,040 it was getting drunk as much as possible. 881 01:06:29,120 --> 01:06:30,880 Biff Avery, screen test, second take. 882 01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:34,920 "I didn't take her to the motel. "She took me!" 883 01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:39,000 "I will tell you the unwritten law, You moron son of a bitch!" 884 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:43,080 "I once went to university, but "they only found rats in my head." 885 01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:47,240 BAND - PULP ALBUM - THIS IS HARDCORE ISSUED - MARCH 1998 886 01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:50,960 Did you find that this is hardcore, Was it difficult to write? 887 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,040 Yes, it was horrible. 888 01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,880 Probably, definitely, It was the worst period of my life. 889 01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:00,440 Without a doubt. 890 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,000 I mean, seriously. 891 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,800 Because I was a disaster. 892 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,800 Because? 893 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:17,000 Well, do drugs It didn't help. 894 01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:19,880 That never helps in the situation. 895 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,880 It's not often that you hear it said, "Since he took drugs... 896 01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,600 is a person so kind." 897 01:07:25,600 --> 01:07:27,560 "It's really come out of its shell. 898 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:29,560 He's so kind. "It has prospered." 899 01:07:29,560 --> 01:07:31,920 MADE IN ENGLAND 900 01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,720 COCAINE NATION 901 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,520 That was the exact phrase from the 90s. 902 01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:42,280 There was a cocaine storm. You became an accessory. 903 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,920 And for me, handling Loaded... 904 01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,160 the bathroom became on the new golf course. 905 01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:51,040 all businesses they were made there. 906 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,880 The number of movies what I got for the magazine... 907 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:57,520 to sit down, cut coke on a table or a toilet-- 908 01:07:57,520 --> 01:07:59,760 "Oh yeah, I'll act in that. No problem. 909 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:02,000 Take another line.” 910 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,560 It's another type of classic English row, you know? 911 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,560 The cocaine row. 912 01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:19,200 what was your favorite substance? 913 01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:22,560 Everywhere, at that time, There were people consuming a lot of coca. 914 01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,200 Coca finally became... 915 01:08:24,200 --> 01:08:27,200 into something huge and very available everywhere. 916 01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:32,160 It's a drug that makes you feel good about yourself. 917 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,440 "Yes, we are inventing the future!" 918 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,880 The mid 90s They were a very high time. 919 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:18,880 But I don't think anyone thought in the consequences. 920 01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:23,000 The government too, I think. 921 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:26,440 We passed. "My God, we must change." 922 01:09:26,440 --> 01:09:29,360 Change climate. 923 01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,440 It became an urban myth, but many people say... 924 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:56,480 that that song, "Beetlebum", It's about heroin. 925 01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:01,520 I don't know, is it the last song, There she goes, about heroin? 926 01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,160 Does it matter? 927 01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,160 Does it matter? 928 01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:11,480 I say, "Head and Shoulders" or whoever used it... 929 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:14,440 In his notice he did not think like that. 930 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,520 I got to that point where I felt... 931 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,560 that nothing could hurt me. 932 01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,080 and when you start to feel more vulnerable... 933 01:10:29,080 --> 01:10:31,160 your focus changes. 934 01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:10,320 Today was the day when the Oasis fans got... 935 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,000 the group's new album, Come here now. 936 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,960 It's the first in two years. 937 01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,120 And as they would have said the Gallagher brothers... 938 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:18,120 the fans were crazy about him. 939 01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,280 It's something you can tell him to your grandchildren. 940 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:31,360 I mean, the most famous album of all time. 941 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,320 I mean, I was there first. 942 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,280 I have only heard the first songs. 943 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,280 According to what I hear, It's going to be great. 944 01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:38,720 Much better than the first two albums. 945 01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:41,320 This is the best album of this year. 946 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,040 I don't think Oasis will ever do something better than this. 947 01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,760 - I don't like the album. - Because? 948 01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,760 It's the same old thing. 949 01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,520 It's like, guitar, wow, Dad, wow; all the same. 950 01:11:52,520 --> 01:11:57,040 It's the sound from a group of guys... 951 01:11:57,040 --> 01:12:00,800 high on coke in the studio... 952 01:12:00,800 --> 01:12:03,000 without giving a damn. 953 01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,880 There's nothing bassy about it. I don't know what happened to that. 954 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:07,840 It's all-- 955 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,680 And all the songs are long, and the lyrics are shit. 956 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:14,200 For every millisecond that Liam doesn't say a word... 957 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:15,840 You hear a damn guitar. 958 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,200 Wayne's World style. 959 01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:21,280 A damn air guitar who went crazy. 960 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:24,360 But Liam thinks which is great. 961 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,640 At that time, We thought it was great. 962 01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,680 And I keep thinking which is great. 963 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,680 Nothing more than it was not Morning Glory. 964 01:12:31,680 --> 01:12:34,560 I'm sick of people talking definitely maybe. 965 01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,560 Hell, definitely maybe. It's over. 966 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,360 Know? Fuck Morning Glory. That's over. 967 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,680 People will complain about it. for the rest of their lives. 968 01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:46,160 But damn sell it. 969 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:47,880 I assume you will receive 4 or 5 quid for that. 970 01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:50,240 Come, I'll sign it for you. Maybe they'll pay you 10 now. 971 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:52,800 I thought it was good. 972 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,760 There were good songs on it. 973 01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,760 But he made it so big... 974 01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,080 that we couldn't live with everyone's expectations. 975 01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:03,760 That ruins people. 976 01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,440 Then they are analyzed, because every song is not No.1. 977 01:13:07,440 --> 01:13:10,800 Which is not fair. They won't give us a chance, right? 978 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:14,280 - What are you doing? - I open this. 979 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,760 Damn, that's why it has a Liam bib too. 980 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:21,360 The end of BritPop was, if nothing else... 981 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,880 It was Oasis' third album. Come here now... 982 01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:28,520 which is not the big disaster which everyone says it is. 983 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,960 There are two or three very good songs. 984 01:13:31,960 --> 01:13:35,200 But it was supposed to be the great, great triumphant album. 985 01:13:35,200 --> 01:13:38,720 BAND - OASIS ALBUM - COME HERE NOW ISSUED - AUGUST 1997 986 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,720 Labor entered. Oasis prepared your big statement. 987 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,200 And it leaves three or four days... 988 01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:47,320 before he died Princess Diana. 989 01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:04,880 Everything BritPop He died pretty quickly... 990 01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:07,520 and left a great gulf. 991 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,600 There was a void that needed to be filled. 992 01:14:10,600 --> 01:14:13,680 And the music business has a default station. 993 01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:16,280 That was pop music. 994 01:14:16,280 --> 01:14:20,880 And luckily for the industry music, Robbie Williams filled it. 995 01:14:35,680 --> 01:14:40,000 We were recording our last album when Robbie was recording his first... 996 01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:41,600 in the studio next door. 997 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,400 Elton John was taken to rehab the next day. 998 01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:47,240 And for some reason, I wanted an independent band... 999 01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:51,080 to come and listen the album he had made... 1000 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,080 and said, brings the whole gang... 1001 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,840 for you to listen his recording of "Ángeles". 1002 01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,880 And he said he thought which was an 11 out of 10... 1003 01:14:58,880 --> 01:14:59,960 and it was. 1004 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,360 And we knew this would be the new force... 1005 01:15:05,360 --> 01:15:08,680 Robbie Williams making music, similar to that of Oasis. 1006 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,920 Once I was doing it, I knew it was over. 1007 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,800 That was the moment in which it ended. 1008 01:15:58,240 --> 01:16:03,840 GANG - MASSIVE ATTACK ALBUM - MELANIN ISSUED - MAY 1998 1009 01:16:05,440 --> 01:16:08,120 What do you think of England, culturally, currently? 1010 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,160 What kind of place do you think What is it to live today? 1011 01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,400 It would be easy to say that he is American but I don't think it's true. 1012 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:21,200 It's obvious that we changed a lot in the last 15, 20 years. 1013 01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,880 It seems like a pretty anonymous place to me. currently, city by city. 1014 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,800 I don't feel, when I arrive at a place, let him feel that place. 1015 01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:32,640 In England there are a global feeling that is-- 1016 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:34,920 Everything is uniform everywhere. Everything is in the same place. 1017 01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:36,920 All sounds are the same. 1018 01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,040 everything has become so pop on a level... 1019 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,040 and so calculated, which has resulted... 1020 01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:45,680 in certain areas from the music business... 1021 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:47,280 because he's been going there about six or seven years-- 1022 01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:51,120 all this karaoke, that "form your band" thing. 1023 01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:15,040 We actually mixed the "Hindu Times"... 1024 01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,440 in Olympic Studies in London... 1025 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,560 And we were recording in a kind of conservatory. 1026 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:25,600 And there were a lot of guys... 1027 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:28,880 doing his damn dance. 1028 01:17:28,880 --> 01:17:31,360 And Liam and Andy Bell walked in. 1029 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,360 I said, "Have you seen to the kids out there?" 1030 01:17:33,360 --> 01:17:35,680 And they said, "You mean to Junior S Club 7?" 1031 01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:39,160 It took me 20 minutes to realize how they knew his name. 1032 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,280 I thought they were kids from a school for crippled children... 1033 01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:45,080 who were around the studio because of free food or something. 1034 01:17:45,080 --> 01:17:47,080 And they knew their names. 1035 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:51,360 S Club Juniors don't bother me. They are better than others. 1036 01:17:58,400 --> 01:18:00,800 They are good children. 1037 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:06,320 Where did all this come from? 1038 01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,720 Have you noticed these Pop ldol assholes... 1039 01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,280 all bands of boys or girls-- 1040 01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:14,240 What does this mean? 1041 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,920 Know? I don't understand. 1042 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:21,440 All choreographers They have taken over the world. 1043 01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:24,320 Now everything is choreographed. It's rubbish. 1044 01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:42,320 A few weeks ago I was in Los Angeles in a restaurant... 1045 01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,240 and Simon Fuller... 1046 01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:49,360 one of the conspirators behind Pop Idol... 1047 01:18:49,360 --> 01:18:52,240 approached me and he said, "Hello." 1048 01:18:55,200 --> 01:18:57,280 "It's a pleasure to meet you." 1049 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,240 And I told him, "What are you doing?" 1050 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:03,520 He said, "We're finalizing our businesses... 1051 01:19:03,520 --> 01:19:06,640 to bring Pop Idol to North America." 1052 01:19:06,640 --> 01:19:09,760 I said, “Oh, great. What good news. 1053 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:18,080 "I guess we have to give them something." 1054 01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:22,080 They gave us a lot to us." 1055 01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:59,200 Why Oasis? Why not Blur? 1056 01:20:03,920 --> 01:20:06,040 So, that's not why. 1057 01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,960 Liam started to believe everything what they wrote about him. 1058 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:18,720 It was a good couple of weeks, who spoke with a Scottish accent. 1059 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,680 I believe in madness in rock music... 1060 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:23,520 and I totally believe in surrealism... 1061 01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:27,360 but he tried convince me that-- 1062 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,440 that I should call him John. 1063 01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,960 Very strange things happened. 1064 01:20:39,960 --> 01:20:41,760 There was a guy-- 1065 01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:43,760 There was a guy who was dressed-- 1066 01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:48,080 the bottom part was a woman, and the one above was a man. 1067 01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:50,080 It was quite strange. 1068 01:20:50,080 --> 01:20:52,240 Once he gave us firewood to make a bonfire. 1069 01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,760 me and that boy We had a little fight. 1070 01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:25,680 And I returned home with a broken arm, a broken leg... 1071 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,680 and a shotgun over the shoulder. 1072 01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:30,640 My mom says, "What music Damn are you playing down here?"